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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, about your first reference -- the best arguments of young earthers would not say that death and bloodshed before Adam *proves* a young earth; they would say it is a problem that old earthers have to account for.

When I read the creation account, and the fall of mankind, I read that *after* the fall God cursed the ground and pronounced death on man.  The ground He cursed at that time had to have been removed from Eden, because Adam was driven away from wherever Eden was.  Hence, it makes more sense to me to read that the "ground" outside of Eden was cursed after the fall, not before  Prior to that, *all* of creation, the totality of it, was pronounced to be "good" and "very good."

Then, in Romans I read this:

"For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption"

The problem remains.  The creation WAS subjected to "corruption," yet *prior* to the fall, and *after* the creation of man and woman,  the final pronouncement on *all* of creation was that it was "very good."

Just a thought.  ;-)  I know we've talked about this in other places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, about your first reference &#8212; the best arguments of young earthers would not say that death and bloodshed before Adam *proves* a young earth; they would say it is a problem that old earthers have to account for.</p>
<p>When I read the creation account, and the fall of mankind, I read that *after* the fall God cursed the ground and pronounced death on man.  The ground He cursed at that time had to have been removed from Eden, because Adam was driven away from wherever Eden was.  Hence, it makes more sense to me to read that the &#8220;ground&#8221; outside of Eden was cursed after the fall, not before  Prior to that, *all* of creation, the totality of it, was pronounced to be &#8220;good&#8221; and &#8220;very good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, in Romans I read this:</p>
<p>&#8220;For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem remains.  The creation WAS subjected to &#8220;corruption,&#8221; yet *prior* to the fall, and *after* the creation of man and woman,  the final pronouncement on *all* of creation was that it was &#8220;very good.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just a thought.  <img src='http://www.asmallfaith.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I know we&#8217;ve talked about this in other places.</p>
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